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Post by Hitotsumami on Sept 1, 2012 2:04:02 GMT -5
Pokemon Plot Thread Here we can discuss all things plot for the Pokemon RP. Before we start our first real thread, I think we should first talk about what direction we want this thread to go in. I'll voice my opinion and hear yours as well and then we'll make a choice. In my opinion, I think the RP should start in the Kanto Region. That doesn't really mean we need to start with only Kanto Pokemon, just that we should all meet each other in this region. The reason for this is because it is one of the most well known areas by most of the forum members, and a decent place to start our adventure. As for the plot, I have some ideas. Don't be afraid to post yours as well. I think we should start with Team Rocket stealing some kind of rare Pokemon and using it to destroy a town or capture a Pokemon Center and take all of their Pokemon. Something simple, but something that can be expanded on as we go to create a very interesting first thread. What are your ideas?
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Post by Sprite on Sept 1, 2012 4:31:40 GMT -5
Honestly. I am a supporter of the classic generation. Everything up to the Ruby/Sapphire generation. I have not bothered to play anything past Diamond, and even then I don't even know half the pokemon of that gen. I'd preferabbly just set a limit of which gen pokemon we can use, just so that the rest of us who don't really know anything past that, are still familiar with all the factors in this rp.
That and...you know. All the new pokemon are kinda....bad.
Besides that I totally support meeting in Kanto and having the group brought together by a similar goal.
Are we going to have an overarching goal though? Like, defeat Team Rocket once and for all, or become Pokemon champions or travel to a new region set?
In which case I think the best overarching goals would be these.
1.) Destroying Team Rocket [defeating the leader(s), destroying facilities/bases etc]
2.) Become Pokemon champions [defeating the Elite 4, or in this case we could recreate the whole process. Make it like a collective effort where our group of player-made trainers work as a team to defeat another team of the world 'Elite' pokemon masters where the team all become champions together]
3.) Exploratory/Journey [journeying out of Kanto and into a new region, mapping it, cataloguing pokemon etc]
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Post by Hitotsumami on Sept 1, 2012 10:59:16 GMT -5
I think we actually should include all known Pokemon. Mainly because it gives the RP a lot more variety. It doesn't really take long to go check wiki to see what kind of Pokemon someone has. It's not like having a gen 4 Pokemon is going to change the entire RP. The main difference is really just the way it looks.
As for an overreaching goal int he RP, it should definitely be take out Team Rocket once and for all.
I know gym battles are important in the game and anime, but I don't think they'll be as fun in an RP setting. I do think we should have some of the gym leaders involved in some ways, but yeah. Our team battling a gym leader isn't very fun. I mean, the gym leaders aren't bad people, and if we lose, we can just try again later. There isn't much at stake, if you know what I mean.
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Post by Xero on Sept 1, 2012 21:49:32 GMT -5
I am man enough to admit that I still play all the main games that become available. That being said, I still do not have all the ones from Black/White memorized. I would like to participate in this RP if that is okay with everyone. Also, I think, for nostalgia, we should keep Team Rocket as the villains for now simply because they are the evil team everyone knows about.
I do not think gym battles should be ignored, because like including all the pokemon, having different paths available for the characters should be included. If I join, my character may want to participate in gym battles, but maybe as a side quest.
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Post by Hitotsumami on Sept 1, 2012 22:21:09 GMT -5
Gym battles are fine in a side quest/thread I guess. As long as you can find someone willing to RP the NPC Gym Leader.
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Post by Xero on Sept 2, 2012 3:21:14 GMT -5
Hey, do you happen to know the website to get those pokemon badges made? We had them for when we did it on MangaGround where they displayed the current pokemon in out party and the gym badges.
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Post by Mise™ on Sept 2, 2012 4:25:18 GMT -5
Hey, do you happen to know the website to get those pokemon badges made? We had them for when we did it on MangaGround where they displayed the current pokemon in out party and the gym badges. www.pokestadium.com/pokemon/trainercard/Anyways while I'm fine with whatever really I still thnk we should start at a region of our own as its easier to just make our own stories and what not. Though people seem to be fond of Kanto so I think we should just go with that. Though I think we should still change some things such as include some of the newer Pokemon in one way or another as canonically they aren't native to that region. Also I think maybe we should still change some/all of the major NpCs to our own like we have done to some extent with the One Piece RP. Also I think we shuld do it like the anime that there are mostly small and short storylines, between advancing the main plot, which should be both against Team Rocket (or whatever is the villainous team) is and invidual storylines for the characters (ie. goals). I think one character should actually try to challenge the gyms and become the champion even in the main thread as that has always been one of the main story points of the games, anime, manga etc. Having more than one character challenge them would be really silly though as every time a new gym appears the story would get on a ahalt as everyone takes turns challenging the same opponent.
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Post by Sprite on Sept 2, 2012 6:16:29 GMT -5
Well there was always Archetypes for the people travelling with Ash.
Ash was always the Trainer/Challenger. His goal was always to collect badges and become the Champ.
Brock was the Breeder, always looking for...breeding...stuff. Entered competitions and whatnot and traded pokemon.
That photography dude was out to discover new pokemon and document them.
Misty was...yeah I dunno what she was there for. To collect water pokemon?
But yeah, we can defintely set archetypes or seomthign and ahve people make their charcters/goals based on that.
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Post by Mise™ on Sept 2, 2012 6:54:03 GMT -5
Yes. I like that.
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Post by Xero on Sept 2, 2012 15:44:52 GMT -5
Can I call dibs on the researcher then? lol.
Anyways, I do not have a problem with starting in Kanto, again, everyone seems to know that region. I still would like my character to be from elsewhere though. If what I interpreted from Mise's post, we should create some new NPCs for the Gym Leaders, Team Rocket members, etc...
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Post by Ravensly on Sept 2, 2012 15:58:20 GMT -5
You know, this was my idea originally anyway, so I guess I might as well give my input. The class/archetype thing shouldn't be too set and rigid, like, I would imagine that in a world with Pokemon Trainers, it would more just be a wide variety of people pursuing whatever their individual dreams and goals are with Pokemon, kind of like the wide variety of dreams people have in One Piece. One person might want to become a Gym Leader with a special kind of Gym, another person might want to open a business of some kind, and then of course there will also be a few people who just want to become the Champion.
That's the most common of all the end goals, so I personally don't think it should be limited to just one person. In the Anime remember, it was heavily implied that unlike in the Games, there are more than eight Gyms in a single region, and that Eight is just the number of them that a trainer has to defeat before they're eligible to enter the Pokemon League.
It would be nice to have more than one person trying to be the Champion so that they could have a Red [Ash]/Green [Gary] type rivalry too, and then once the RP has gotten further along, they can even face each other in the Pokemon League Tournament or something. This could also hold true for Coordinators as well, which is basically the second most sought after path done by trainers [they seek to win the Grand Festival and become the Top Coordinator for that year].
Now, the reason why I was somewhat apprehensive about having Team Rocket as the villains is that a real Team Rocket is not going to be nearly as "kid-friendly" as the one in either the show or the games. They'd probably be more likely to do something along the lines of threatening people at gunpoint into giving them their pokemon, and wouldn't hold back on killing them if they refused. That's why I said it would be kind of ridiculous to have ten-year old kids try to go up against them, because the Rocket guys would just pull out guns and shoot them to death.
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Post by Hitotsumami on Sept 2, 2012 15:59:24 GMT -5
Having different archetypes are fine, but I have a strong feeling there will be multiple people in a single archetype. Of course, you can be whatever you want to be in this RP.
As for the different region, I'd say lets start in Kanto. We've had RPs that start big and juts die off too fast, so lets start in a region people are familiar with, and then create our own.
But yeah, everyone should go ahead and create their characters!
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Post by KaosuKishi on Sept 2, 2012 16:04:12 GMT -5
Yeah, Kanto seems the best option, doesn't mean the chars need to be native to it, though.
Mine will most likely be a mixture of breeder/researcher, leaning more to breeder and with a dash of trainer inside. Brock was an excellent breeder, but he was mostly pants at being a trainer, exceptions existing, of course.
And the anime approach seems to be the best. Each char traveling on their own, but in still somewhat parallel paths, those who wish to team up may do so, and occasionally meet up to fight back against a threat either group couldn't beat on their own.
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Post by Sprite on Sept 2, 2012 16:04:57 GMT -5
I'd say a max of two or three people for the Challenger archetype :/
I personally am going for the Performer/Coordinator archetype.
And Raven what you just said is basically what the whole archetype thing was...going for lol. The archetypes are just there so people can have set goals and characters geared towards that so we have a diverse group of people that arent all competing to fight gym leaders. I'd rather not see 6 people have gym battles every thread.
And as for Team Rocket, the 'real' team rocket is the team rocket we saw in the games and the show. They're not going to gun people down, they're going to fight it out with schemes, trickery, and pokemon. If 10 year old kids did it in the tv show, then 10 year old kids can do it in our RP [which is you know...based off the TV show]
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Post by Ravensly on Sept 2, 2012 16:19:44 GMT -5
Well Sprite, if we have 6 people who want to have Challenger characters, then that's what we'll have. You seem to be wanting the rules to be far too rigid and restrictive, which would really only hold us back in the long run and make it less fun. People should be free to do what they want to do, not conform to some super-strict set system just because that's not what you want.
We'll have more than one thread anyway so it doesn't really matter. And I will point out, although few people are familiar with it, there's also always the Manga universe, as well as the Games, both of which were a lot more serious and realistic than the Anime, which I personally think is crap. We've already decided we're deviating from the Canon universes by having original characters in the important slots, so, that in and of itself means we'd be using an Alternate Universe of some sort and not the Anime's.
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