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Post by Haynes on Feb 5, 2012 22:19:38 GMT -5
I still enjoy the hell out of it.
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Post by Morcombe on Feb 5, 2012 23:22:20 GMT -5
Is this manga seriously still any good? I stopped reading when the poison dragon slayer showed up. I believe Edolas the arc after oracion seis but before tenrou island is what everyone considers to be fairy tails weakest arc, but it has plenty of character development and backstory for several characters including happy and his origins and mystogan. then yes it's still amazing since you've not read the best arc which is Tenrou island and finally gets the showdown with the big bad that causes most of our heroes problems. although the ending leading into the time skip is a little random but still good overall. the new arc is proving to be very enjoyable as well, but i generally love tournament arcs in anything. Overall Fairy Tail is a vastly underrated series which gets criticism for being one random arc after another despite the fact that many of these random arcs are actually forshadowed and built up to. another criticism is the usual arc villain which i'm sorry but thats what one piece follows as well. but everything is there in the story that if u look deeper you can see there is one master of evil behind most of the arcs that revolve around zeref- that villain being Hades. Fairy Tail is a brilliant manga imo and has been a great quality manga from start to Present, I have enjoyed every bit of it and it is my second most anticipated title everyweek after how badly bleach and Naruto have fallen. Reasons why Hades is the big bad of the manga before the TS 1. He recruits Ultear 2. He is directly responsible for having Ultear mindbreak Jellal. 3. He is directly responsible for keeping the tower of paradise alive to cause that arc. 4. he is inderctly responsible for creating the oracions eis because they were created by Brain who taught Jellal about magic whie he was master of the tower. if Jellal is freed when Erza rebels non eof this happens and w eget no oracion seis 5. Since Jellal now udner Ultears control wants to revive zeref he looks for new methods and thus helps cause the galuna island incident. 6. While there is no evidence of this it is highly likely that Eisenwald who worked under the Oracion Seis were probably motivated by or directed to Lullaby through some means by Hades/Ultear or they may not even have existed since there was no Oracion Seis for them to follow udner and survive. 6. Galuna Island, Tower of Paradise, Oracion Seis & Tenrou island are all caused by Hades and very likely Eisenwald. 7. Only Phantom Lord and Edolas have 100% no input from Hades wether directly or indirectly.
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Post by CJ on Feb 7, 2012 1:18:32 GMT -5
If I could sum up shortly why I don't like Fairy Tail, it would be this:
Fairy Tail, despite an excellent premise, is a blatant copy of other manga. The greatest example would be the time skip, which came shortly after One Piece and Bleach did theirs. It lets down its readers with poor twists and lack of emphasis on its villains. The fan service is also somewhat annoying. The strongest female character, Erza, will always be a sex symbol because of her power... which relies purely on changing her clothes in the middle of battle. I don't know about you guys but that pisses me off.
Granted though, it is a fun series to read. It's just not the best and I would not praise it as an epic.
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Post by Hitotsumami on Feb 7, 2012 1:29:43 GMT -5
In my opinion, Fairy Tail is like, the most purest of shonen possible. If you could take all of what shonen is and force it into one manga, it would be Fairy Tail.
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Post by Morcombe on Feb 7, 2012 1:48:23 GMT -5
dunno why changing her clothes is a bad thing to you, it reminds me of rpg's where you can equip different armour for better effects in certain battles like in final fantasy games there's certain armour that allows u to absord or negate different elemental damage. Her armour is similar to this so I don't see what the problem is.
Also how is erza's status as sex symbols any different from Nami/Robin/Hancok/Orihime/Rangiku/Yoruichi/Rukia/Hinata It's a shonen manga aimed at a male audience most of the girls from those series are stuck as sex symbols whether the author intends it or not.
underdeveloped villains is rather harsh, yes most of the lackies are underdevloped but several major arc villains are developed perfectly fine like Kageyama, Leon, Jellal, Ultear, Meredy, Hades and Laxus. so it lacks emphasis on the underlings but definitely not the major villain of the arcs.
I'm sorry but you cannot hate fairy tail for being a copy as almost all mangas have copied something from another.
Rurouni kenshin and Samuai deeper Kyo have super powered Samurai. Flame of Recca, MAR and Yu Yu Hakusho have 5 on 5 team battle tournaments with a master villain awaiting in the final. (If anyone knows any other manga featuring tournaments of this style please share)
I have enjoyed most of Fairy tails twists what isit exactly that lets you down other than the timeskip?
I agree the timeskip was stupid as it did not have enough surviving supporting cast members to carry it untill Natsu and co could return, however as the number 7 is heavily involved in the overall dissapearing dragon storyline it may still serve a future purpose.
Fairy Tail is the second best currently running weekly shonen manga imo. It moves at a good pace, has developed most of its main cast into interesting characters, is very funny (imo) and is just fun to read. (I am trying to read and catch up to all currently running series from WSJ & WSM so that opinion may change about it being second best)
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Post by Haynes on Feb 7, 2012 3:33:36 GMT -5
I like Fairy Tail and appreciate it for what it is. The clothes thing and sex symbol don't both me, probably because I'm a guy and I can only think with one head at a time. IMO, Fairy Tail is the 3rd best running Shonen Title right now. One Piece, Naruto, Fairy Tail. (Naruto being better because of the longer run time, and all the effort and time I've put into it, I've become attached.)
That said, Rurouni Kenshin was the first manga I ever read and still tied with OP as my all time fav. (Though fav for finished series). Samurai Deeper Kyo was also epic, though I haven't finished it yet.
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Post by Morcombe on Feb 7, 2012 16:55:10 GMT -5
I rate fairy Tail above Naruto purely because of its pace, Naruto has felt dragged out the last couple of months and I Feel that Kishi could be moving the story along faster.
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Post by Haynes on Feb 7, 2012 20:17:33 GMT -5
I agree with that the pacing of the story is nice, though it does sometimes seemed a bit rushed with no clear purpose.
(I like Naruto's current pacing given the context)
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Post by Shark a' Pult on Feb 8, 2012 5:42:12 GMT -5
Dammit I had this whole big post worked out about what I thought was wrong with Erza but it didn't save or something. I'll just have to summarize; If I remember correctly Erza had/has some serious hang-ups about exposing herself, due to the whole slavery ordeal. But then they go and give her bikini armor, or fighter armor with only bandages around her chest. It seems a disparity with the character herself. So when her whole shtick was being armor clad the whole time, which is a pretty cool gimmick, then stick to it. She struck me as an interesting character at first, but when she eventually got relegated to fan service detail, she no longer stood out from the other ladies. And thrown in with the lot of them in that sense, she's not really that interesting anymore and I find myself focusing better on Lucy or Lluvia, because hey if they're all fan service, might as well like the funny ones right? --- On an unrelated note, I fail to see the ongoing relevance of Hades if he is now dead.
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Post by Morcombe on Feb 8, 2012 8:15:32 GMT -5
I was saying that Hades is the big bad of part 1.
Zeref or Acnologia will probably take over that role now thatw e are into part 2
It's like how Orochimaru was the big bad of naruto before the timeskip and was replaced by Akatsuki/Pain/Tobi in part 2.
As for Erza, it is clearly shown in the tower that she hides in her armour locking her heart away which is why Ikaruga is able to shatter it so easily, so she throws that shell away in order to open up her heart and thats when she bring out the bandage outfit a sher heart is now in hers word and she defeats Ikaruga.
Since she is now no longer hiding her heart she becomes more outgoing and friendly towards the other characters. I thought it was rather well developed.
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Post by Haynes on Feb 8, 2012 13:14:59 GMT -5
I agree with Morcombe on the Erza thing. However I do think she'd faded a bit into the background, which is really disappointing given that she was like the third strongest member of Fairy Tail.
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Post by Morcombe on Feb 8, 2012 13:31:27 GMT -5
yeah my one problem with Erza is that she's never defeated a main arc boss.
Lucy has defeated Duke Everlue, Gray has defeated Lyon and Natsu has beaten teh rest but Erza has never beaten a main villain when she's the strongest of Natsu' group.
I really liked the Hades fight because it took 6 people to fight him.
but I have high hopes for everyone getting their moments in the spotlight in this new arc.
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Post by Morcombe on Feb 10, 2012 11:12:16 GMT -5
chapter 270 has arrived! mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/40401305/1Looks like we're getting previews of upcoming battles since Grey seems to have his sights on Rufus and Narpuding. when was everyone asigne da letter for these battles, I assumed fairy tail A would be team H because they were 8th and Raven Tail would be Team C because they were third but Lucy is fighting Flare despite the fact it says Team C vs. Team D and Team G vs. Team H? Guess they are Team A and B now though, this is confusing Mashima needs to tell us whos who. I expect Flare to win this. I made a few predictions regarding the points and who would have what after the first day. Wonder how close I'll be at the end of the battle round lol. Obviously they were made before the thing started so fairy tail kinda screwed them in this chapter XD Sabertooth - 20 Raven Tail - 18 Lamia Scale - 16 Blue Pegasus - 9 Fairy Tail A - 7 Fairy Tail B - 2 Mermaid Heel - 1 Quatro Cerberus - 0
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Post by CJ on Feb 11, 2012 10:20:10 GMT -5
I expect Flare to win the next fight as well. Lucy is likely my favorite character so I'm happy she's getting a fight of her own but I do think she'll lose. The author's got to put Fairy Tail in even more risk to add some tension to the manga. And I bet Flare's strength will highlight some of the changes of the seven year time skip as well.
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Post by keljarmoatis on Feb 12, 2012 10:22:31 GMT -5
Needs more Mistogun
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